Discussion in 'Time Travel Claims' started by Ted B, Jul 29, 2012.
Skarpz, did your grandparents made contacts with Ted? Does it mean he was safely home at the end?
If he makes it back, then yes, but there was no mention of Ted.
I am starting to suspect that Skarpz is more related to Ted than he would care to admit.....
"Computer check for IP signature equivalence Please!"
(Yes I know I said I wouldn't write anymore on this thread, but the temptation was too great)
No relation. I don't know who Ted B. is or who he could be. I have never met him.
Oh and another thing Ted, before you go, read this book:
St. Paul, Oregon
by Harvey J. McKay
Made in 1980
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number: 80-69228
My family and the history of their travels are on pp. 112-115. In 1830, they will be in Detroit, Illinois until 1832. That's closer to you and easier to visit. Maybe you can somehow meet with them there or post them?
Good evening friends,
I shall be departing for home before this time tomorrow. Adam has offered to transport me to the cave where I will make my attempt to return. Before I may forget to mention, he has offered to visit all of you here and provide an account of my departure once I have left.
I have been active today in gathering collectibles and gifts that I shall take with me back home. I have purchased a few two-way radios for my children, with an excess of batteries. I have also purchased a cyclopaedia for my wife, for she likes to read, and a copious amount of medicine for her headaches. For my good friend and brother in faith, Dr. McDowell, I will share with him two medical cyclopaedias when I see him at church. Also, I will take with me some electronic devices that Adam suggests I take.
Servantx, I can only guess my date of birth and only know the year to be 1791. I would like my surname to remain confidential. I fear that I may learn the fate of myself or my family before I return home. Humbly, Let well alone.
For your interest, I shall further describe my background.
I and my family live in a small town named Danville.
We attend the Trinity Episcopal Church.
My oldest daughter, Mary, is attending Centre College.
My wife, Catherine, educates our two youngest children in our home and we all share chores on the farm.
We have made friends with some noble persons including the prestigious Dr. McDowell, whom I have mentioned. Also, we were honoured to be friends with our former governor Isaac Shelby. Recently, the Lord took Brother Isaac away. We have prayed he shall be safe with our Lord and that our sister in faith, Susannah, will have the strength to endure her grief.
Transient001, Though my departure draws nigh, please speak abundantly.
Skarpz, I could not locate that book while at the bookstore. It may be well enough as I have no suitable means of traveling even that distance. I shall inform your relatives of this Aaron Meier and their help he shall need and the gold rush to be expected in the future.
I shall bid a brief farewell tomorrow soon before I depart. Good health until then.
May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you in your journey.
I attend St Marks Anglican Church in Malabar, New South Wales, Australia, we have just celebrated 100 years of our church history a few years back.
The first Sunday service was conducted in Malabar dated back in time 200 years ago when Captain Cook the English expeditioner found Australia in 1770.
Remember bring a local state map and compass with you in your journey.
This is a world map. Australia is at the bottom right in red colour. I live in the other side of the globe (earth) from your location in North America.
P.S. Don't bring too much future gadgets back in your time. But the medical manuals will be very helpful.
God bless you and your family, and take care.
Greetings one last time,
I shall be departing soon.
Thank you all for the supportive words. I shall remember this brief period eternally and the good friends I have made.
I must be going now.
Thank you so much Ted and good luck!
And yes, servantx, my family got a head start of the gold rush and made $13 million dollars all because of my conversation with Ted just now and that's how Aaron Meier stopped by and they let him stay a while before creating Meier and Frank which is now taken over by Macy's but Aaron Meier now leads a happy life too. It's a time paradox. Just gotta love 'em! =D
All that money is gone now, but it's okay. We have a huge family now. =)
What I didn't say was that one of Hugh and Mary Cosgrove's children would marry the cousin of President Andrew Jackson.
This is Ted's friend Adam.
I am happy to say that Ted made it back safely to 1826. We agreed that he would let me know by burying a note next to the cave after he made it home, which he did.
We got to the cave around 6:30 pm yesterday.
He was a little nervous at first and we talked for a few minutes before he entered the cave. I can understand from the way he described that vortex. I was also a little worried for him.
He didn't leave right away after entering the cave, but it took several minutes. We called each others names a few times while he was waiting inside. I assured him that I was there and to keep waiting. Finally, I heard this faint, hissing sound. I also thought I saw a hazy bluish color through the entrance of the cave. I called Ted's name but there was no answer. I wanted to go in the cave in case something was wrong and had to stop myself. I thought the sound was being made by that vortex and didn't want to be taken with him. Once the sound went away, I pointed my flashlight into the cave and didn't see anything in there. The cave is small and there would have been no way for Ted to leave from inside. Ted was gone and so was his sack of things he took inside.
I had to dig up his message from the ground. We agreed in advance exactly where he would bury it. It didn't take long to dig it up. It was buried in a small wooden box. I read it as soon as I recovered it. I will just type what he wrote in the letter below:
" Dear Adam,
I have made it home safely in the year 1826. I have been back for one day. I thank the Lord that I am back with my family. My wife informed me that I was absent for the same length of time that I was in your time. She and our children did not know how I disappeared and had been praying for my return every day. I have described my experience to her and she wishes to thank you for helping me. Please wish my friends well for me at that website and let them know that I am home.
P.S. Tell my friend, Skarpz, that my wife has promised to contact his relatives when making her next trip to the post office."
I guess it is now time for me to do my thing...
AKA "the same person who typed as Ted is now typing as Adam." Funny how, even though you made friends with "Ted", "Adam", and you knew he was interacting on this board (I assume you had to give him pointers on using a computer along with the "librarian"), that you registered on this forum the exact same day (and almost the same time) as Ted himself registered. Funny that you would decide not to post at all until after Ted was gone. Given you had registered on the same day Ted did, and from the exact same IP address, one would think you might have chimed-in while Ted was telling us his story to at least provide him some cover. Oh, but of course if you did that, from the exact same IP address, that would certainly be a cause for suspicion, wouldn't it?
And perhaps you could dream up some story as to WHY you and Ted share the exact same IP address? Just a bit of friendly advice: Before you claim you must have used the exact same computer that Ted did at the library, think twice about how that could be falsified...and then come up with a better lie.
Right, and I suppose you never actually looked in that agreed-upon spot while Ted was there to confirm there was nothing buried there before Ted left. Right?
Now that "Ted" is gone and there is no danger to him, you will certainly not mind divulging exactly where in Kentucky this cave is, right? I mean, given a wonderful freak of time travel has occurred there not once, but twice, our TTI field team will certainly want to get right on it!
It seems like, from the way you write this, that you are writing this merely to keep the story alive, rather than relate the events that went on and any attempt on your part to collect any validating data. I offer the phrase I highlighted in bold as evidence for what I am talking about. I am not going to challenge the things you wrote in this paragraph...for now. But if you persist in the lies, I will most definitely come back to this, and you might be embarassed when I do.
Right. And again, you did nothing before Ted left to verify it was not already there. I always find it interesting how those people who come here and take on their air of trying to convince us of a real TT story invariably do not attempt even the simplest things to try and verify the claimant's story. Chalk up another one.
And of course you saved the box, right? We could do a little carbon dating on it to ensure the wood it is made of has a half life consitent with trees from the early 1800s, right?
And so that would mean that now there would be evidence in Skarpz's family that someone from Kentucky did contact them with a story of time travel...back in 1826 or so, right? Skarpz, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
And now finally, to prove that I am not the "evil debunker" that my friend Darby is , but rather more of a matter-of-fact, above-board and fair-game-playing debunker, I will now cite the line from Ted used in his initial post here that will be his (and yours, since you are him) downfall. You can say I am a lot of things, but you can't say I am not a person who gives fair warning!
And another thing: Beyond the intersting fact that you and Ted B both registered here at the same time, it is also interesting to note that you both have the same habit in selecting a username. He was "Ted B" and you are "Adam K". Gosh, you two are just like two peas in a pod...time traveling pod, of course.
There is only a possibility so far but my aunt can't remember the names so she's looking into her research. She has done tons of research on this. But so far, no. There were people that contacted them, but so far, no. It would have had to been contact in Detroit because they found out before going to the West Coast. Semi-good but no proof. I'm going to have my Aunt research, but when talking with her it didn't seem like it happened.
I know I swore I wouldn't return to this particular thread since it smelled badly, but I just can not resist.
RMT (its always good to talk to you by the way) it sounded bad since the beginning. The story was inconsistent. Check up the times he was supposedly writing from the library, it happened at non working hours, if that was true he was breaking-in and entering a public place (great scott!!!!! he was a time traveling burglar as well)
I asked him something very simple about farming equipment in the past,which I only know because everyone knows I am a real timetraveler, and he didn't know. He simply dismissed it with a magical wave of his hand.
Also, his acculturation to this time was uncanny, his acclimatization with computers was superb and his grammar was perfect and subject to our modern vernacular. In other words he was speaking 2012's English and not 1826's English. Believe me there is a huge difference between the time periods. He did not sound right, like a person from that time.
Finally, the cave incident is completely flawed, he went back in time like they do in TV series where the time has ran up and they have to cut to the end. How did he know that he would find the vortex open? Why didn't he use it before? How did he activate the vortex? How did he buy so many things, was he working, stealing or did you lend him the money Adam, to a complete stranger stating he was a time traveler.
Oh...and how did you two met again? I would love to listen to that.
Maybe there is just people out to get information on me. Ever think about that?
Whys is that Skarpz? Please explain.
What year/era are you from? What years have you been?
Do you think Eloi Cole is a real time traveller or not?
What is 1828 English looks like? Can you give us some samples?
What he is asking is if you are a real time traveller or not.
Oh friend Servant X you are being too cute.
Everyone here knows I am not a Real Time Traveler. I am many things but not a Real Time Traveler. You could better say that I am an Observer and that has been discussed fully in the past .
What year/era are you from? What years have you been?
That is very easy to say. I have been to countless moments in time. From almost the moment of creation (which nearly fuses the holochronic wave damper circuit of my chronocron to the telespherical timeflex drive unit) to the far distant moment when everything goes dark and cold and there is no star, not one, to light the vacuum of space a very lonely place indeed)
About my own time. I will not tell you the year, its besides the point but I will tell you this. It was the glory years when you thought of the future as something magical, there were no atom bombs, the best diners were crowding with people, there just two skyscrapers in thwe world and people slept with all of their windows open. That was the most glorious time in time.
About Eloi Cole, it was a made up story.
Examples of English Circa 1826:
Letter dated 25 September 1826, from Philip and Betty Boardman to James Moor Dearbumville Wain County, Michigan Territory, America:
Dear Brother and Sister.
We received your kind and welcom letter on the 30th of July and we are glad to hear that you have done well in buying your land and we hope you are comfortably situated and ricovered from the sickness that you mentioned in your letter. Your sister Betty has not very good helth but she has not had any verry sevare sickness this summer. She is the worst in winter in frosty wether. She has been some nights for two or three winters that she coud not lay in bed. She had an inflammation on the lungs last winter and in frosty wether she is very ill Plagued for her breath. She wishes you to send her word in your next what your sickness has been.
We are glad to hear that Nancy and Meriah enjoys good health and we hope they will be of service to you now and be good girls. It is about two years since we had a letter from william he is either forgetful or too proud to rite but we coud wish him to rite and let us know how he is getting on. He never sends us any directions where to rite too.
Isaac Boardman is dead and John Sixsmith the Sexton is dead. Old Betty is yet at Dean Church and liveing where she did and Jane and her husband is liveing with her and she is in as good health as can be expected at her age and she wishes to be remembered to you. You woud hardley know the Dean Church if you was to see it now. It has almost been pulled down since you saw it and Built up again and a new organ and two New Galleries and on the north and the other on the South sides. We have no pirtickler News at present. I think the people in the old lane is the same as usual.
Trade is very brisk of every description and provitions is prity cheap. I am yet at Mr. Dobsons and we are very full of work there has been a deal of new factories built this summer about Bolton. There is four or five on Bolton Moor and a deal of other buildings of different sorts. Our Betty thinks it not right that you shoud have so much land and her hardley what she can spread a blanket on. She thinks thou might send her a field or two taxes free. We conclude with our best respects to you both and all your children that we have not seen and Nancy and Meriah.
So no more at present
from your brother and sister Philip and Betty Boardman
Thats how Ted B should have spoken in his threads, not like he did. He was way to fluent in this time's English and actually sounded more like a 21 year old man from the southern eastern portion of the United States, with low scores in Math and Science and he might have skipped twelfth grade. ( Dont mind me, you know I get carried away with the profiling )
Another Example of 1826's English; this time from "a man of the brick" as they called business men:
TO BERNARD BARTON.
March 20, 1826.
Dear B. B.,--You may know my letters by the paper and the folding. For the former, I live on scraps obtained in charity from an old friend, whose stationery is a permanent perquisite; for folding, I shall do it neatly when I learn to tie my neckcloths. I surprise most of my friends by writing to them on ruled paper, as if I had not got past pothooks and hangers. (THIS MEANS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL) Sealing-wax I have none on my establishment; wafers of the coarsest bran supply its place. When my epistles come to be weighed with Pliny's, however superior to the Roman in delicate irony, judicious reflections, etc., his gilt post will bribe over the judges to him. All the time I was at the E. I. H. I never mended a pen; I now cut 'em to the stumps, marring rather than mending the primitive goose-quill. I cannot bear to pay for articles I used to get for nothing. When Adam laid out his first penny upon nonpareils at some stall in Mesopotamos, I think it went hard with him, reflecting upon his old goodly orchard, where he had so many for nothing. When I write to a great man at the court end, he opens with surprise upon a naked note, such as Whitechapel people interchange, with no sweet degrees of envelope. I never enclosed one bit of paper in another, nor understood the rationale of it. Once only I sealed with borrowed wax, to set Walter Scott a-wondering, signed with the imperial quartered arms of England, which my friend Field bears in compliment to his descent, in the female line, from Oliver Cromwell. It must have set his antiquarian curiosity upon watering. To your questions upon the currency, I refer you to Mr. Robinson's last speech, where, if you can find a solution, I cannot. I think this, though,--the best ministry we ever stumbled upon,--gin reduced four shillings in the gallon, wine two shillings in the quart! This comes home to men's minds and bosoms. My tirade against visitors was not meant particularly at you or Anne Knight. I scarce know what I meant, for I do not just now feel the grievance. I wanted to make an article. So in another thing I talked of somebody's insipid wife without a correspondent object in my head; and a good lady, a friend's wife, whom I really love (don't startle, I mean in a licit way), has looked shyly on me ever since. The blunders of personal application are ludicrous. I send out a character every now and then on purpose to exercise the ingenuity of my friends. "Popular Fallacies" will go on; that word "concluded" is an erratum, I suppose, for "continued." I do not know how it got stuffed in there. A little thing without name will also be printed on the Religion of the Actors; but it is out of your way, so I recommend you, with true author's hypocrisy, to skip it. We are about to sit down to roast beef, at which we could wish A. K., B. B., and B. B.'s pleasant daughter to be humble partakers. So much for my hint at visitors, which was scarcely calculated for droppers-in from Woodbridge; the sky does not drop such larks every day. My very kindest wishes to you all three, with my sister's best love.
So my friends, this is why I said Ted B was a fraud. Does it sound at all like he spoke like that? Could he have learned modern English in a couple of months? The answers to this questions are No and No.
It takes a regular person approximately 8 months to learn a new language, but almost two years to acclimatize to dialects of the same language, not taking into consideration the written expression.
Separate names with a comma.