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RainmanTime
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trojan,
I think I get the gist of what you are saying. However (and this is not meant as being nasty, only a critical observation), by merely stating "energy" without quantifying it further, it sounds all too much like new-agey pseudoscience. I am sure you are aware how often bogus new agey concepts invoke "energy" but can never quantify it in a scientific manner (which makes it convenient for them to sell their snake oil). So again, we would need to better quantify what you are getting at in scientific terms if we were to hope to test its impact.
Energy is a physical measure that can be expressed in many different physical units. Mechanical energy is different from chemical energy which is different yet again from electrical energy which is even different from fluidic energy. And, I can convert any one of these energies into any of the other forms. This is a fundamental aspect of all forms of engineering.
I have often, on these fora, conceptualized and discussed the relationship between energy and information. The scientific reality, when you consider something as simple as information flowing over the internet, is that information is actually CARRIED WITHIN an energetic medium. Electrical current flowing at a given voltage, and changing over time represents the quantification of electrical energy. Information is modulated upon this time-varying waveform. Clearly, if we are accepting the hypothesis that dreams are initiated by an external input to our mind/brain systems that kicks off the dreaming process, then we need to be able to describe the energetic medium by which that input arrives at the mind/brain. We cannot simply say "it's an ether process." :D
Understood. Now, as I mention above, help me quantify the words "energy signatures" in physical terms that are testable. That is what we need to pursue to take it out of the realm where it can be criticized as "too much new-agey pseudoscience."
Understood, and I agree. The purpose of the scientific experiment as I have laid it out was merely to test whether DNA could be tested to be one factor in explaining how such "energy" propagates from one person to another. It was not to suggest this is the only means of transfer, but rather to select a limited hypothesis that is clearly testable under scientific conditions. If this limited experiment shows any statistical significance, then by all means we would want to open up the hypothesis to go beyond merely DNA. However, my thought was based on the fact that DNA is an information encoder, and thus acts very similarly to a radio tuning element. If DNA acts in a manner similar to information encoders/decoders, then it may be plausible to show shared DNA codons could act as micro transmitter/receiver pairs between relatives. It provides a testable basis for "tuning in" to external signals.
RMT
So to RainmanTime....having read your hypothesis I would like to know if you have ever considered that it is not the DNA blood connection, but that it could simply be energy we share? Just say for instance you and I were two batteries, and there was a remote control which could be powered by one of us. So somebody puts you into this remote and your doing fine, but there also happens to be space in this remote for a second battery, and they put me in there. Now our energy is shared and it flows together.
I think I get the gist of what you are saying. However (and this is not meant as being nasty, only a critical observation), by merely stating "energy" without quantifying it further, it sounds all too much like new-agey pseudoscience. I am sure you are aware how often bogus new agey concepts invoke "energy" but can never quantify it in a scientific manner (which makes it convenient for them to sell their snake oil). So again, we would need to better quantify what you are getting at in scientific terms if we were to hope to test its impact.
Energy is a physical measure that can be expressed in many different physical units. Mechanical energy is different from chemical energy which is different yet again from electrical energy which is even different from fluidic energy. And, I can convert any one of these energies into any of the other forms. This is a fundamental aspect of all forms of engineering.
I have often, on these fora, conceptualized and discussed the relationship between energy and information. The scientific reality, when you consider something as simple as information flowing over the internet, is that information is actually CARRIED WITHIN an energetic medium. Electrical current flowing at a given voltage, and changing over time represents the quantification of electrical energy. Information is modulated upon this time-varying waveform. Clearly, if we are accepting the hypothesis that dreams are initiated by an external input to our mind/brain systems that kicks off the dreaming process, then we need to be able to describe the energetic medium by which that input arrives at the mind/brain. We cannot simply say "it's an ether process." :D
So it would make sense to me that with all of this shared energy on earth, that on occasion we pick up on other people's energy signatures
Understood. Now, as I mention above, help me quantify the words "energy signatures" in physical terms that are testable. That is what we need to pursue to take it out of the realm where it can be criticized as "too much new-agey pseudoscience."
If it were only blood relatives who shared these types of things, I may be more inclined towards your thinking, but because it happens in many more instances with unrelated people I find it hard to think it is a simple DNA thing.
Understood, and I agree. The purpose of the scientific experiment as I have laid it out was merely to test whether DNA could be tested to be one factor in explaining how such "energy" propagates from one person to another. It was not to suggest this is the only means of transfer, but rather to select a limited hypothesis that is clearly testable under scientific conditions. If this limited experiment shows any statistical significance, then by all means we would want to open up the hypothesis to go beyond merely DNA. However, my thought was based on the fact that DNA is an information encoder, and thus acts very similarly to a radio tuning element. If DNA acts in a manner similar to information encoders/decoders, then it may be plausible to show shared DNA codons could act as micro transmitter/receiver pairs between relatives. It provides a testable basis for "tuning in" to external signals.
RMT